Thursday, August 27, 2009

just random thing about teams i thought about

i was in a forum reading about the top ten roles for a team to have so i decided to have a look, form ideas and as always post:

History has shown that specific types of players are more important than others. If you're fuzzy on the concept, think of the emphasis on size. It's a rudimentary example, but I hope my list makes things more clear. Here are my top 10 roles:

1.) Back to the basket big man with post moves and post passing abilities.

Put simply, he's the king of the court. He puts the game at the pace ideal to his team, he opens up the floor, he scores, and he creates for others. Think Tim Duncan and Shaq and history takes us back to wilt in my eyes the greatest.

2.) Playmaking Swingmen.

They create for themselves, teammates, and take over games. They are also much, much, much easier to find than 1) on the list, and they don't have the advantage of height. Kobe, Wade, and LeBron are the examples from our decade.

3.) Versatile Power Forwards

They shoot, play facing the basket, have a few low post moves, and can pass. Noticing a trend here? Unfortuantely, they don't have the sheer game changing ability of 1.) Dirk and Garnett fall here.

4.) Playmaking Point Guards.
I think their impact is really, really overstated. Perhaps they've been blocked by great players at 1) and 2), or perhaps I'm right like usual. I think they need to be extremely special, one in a life time special like Magic, to be a singlehanded force. Nash, DWill, and CP3 are obvious, but Parker and Billups shouldn't be overlooked.


5.) Defensive/Rebounding Bigman
It's preferable for these players to be part of 1.) or 6.), but that's rarely the case. Good defensive teams win championships, and it doesn't matter how good your perimeter defense is if your bigs can't pull down the ball.

6.) Scoring Bigman
Mostly gets his points in Pick and Roll and Pick and Pop. Usually can't create for others besides floor spacing and demanding double teams. Amare and Al Jefferson.

7.) Scoring Wing
They really shouldn't have the ball in their hands too much, because they can't, don't, or aren't asked to create for other players. Richard Jefferson comes to mind.

8.) Scoring Point Guard
Limited in effectiveness because a playmaking swingman is necessary. They're usually thrown there because of height. Still, they create pressure the second they are past the half-court line.

9.) Defense + 3 point shooting Wing
Locks down the opposing teams best player, and creates the ever important floor spacing. Battier, Bowen, and Posey.

10.) defending PG with speed and ball handling
these guys are very important and they are even more imporant if you don't have a number 4.) these sort of players.
also my favorite pairings for teams like duos or trios
my favorite and may look familar
2), 5) and i consider pippin a 6)/4)/9 Bulls?
or just a 1) or a 3) and a 4) Stockton and Malone?
i also like
5) and 3) with a nice 8) or 10)
anyways thats my say.

3 comments:

Anonymous said...

mitch its ben. i believe you have many valid points but i disagree that bigmen are no.1. simply because without the number 2s, bigmen would simply be less effective. think whos more important in a team (as you mentioned) LeBron, Wade ect, but dont you think that such mentioned players are more consistent and veratile players, who can fill in almost anywhere on the court. i just wanted to say that without number2, number1 would be much less productive. a pick and roll for example is commonly used with both roles (although i think the nash stoudamire pic&roll is the best in the league). hope this helps, maybe you should think of your headings a little better as this could be a gateway into something more for you..

Anonymous said...

one other thing is that Deron Williams is not mention. this is disapointing as i believe him and CP3 are rivals for greatest points of all time

mitch sigalas said...

dear ben,
although i respect your comment and think it was good,
have u ever seen a SF without a SG/PG
i have seen Shaq without a PG
i have seen wilt with out a SG
as for ur so called NO.2 theres a reason, they lack hieght to dominate a game nearly as much.
in play offs today,
PAU gasol +kobe played Dwgiht and two SFs, obiously ur three point shooting/ scoring versitle SFs didn't win, cus they weren't as good as kobe. but if u put wilt there instead of pau and kobe the same result still happens mainly cus u only need one power player